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I had the good fortune to speak with author and legal scholar Brando Simeo Starkey on a recent episode of the New Books Network, where we talked about his latest book, Their Accomplices Wore Robes: How the Supreme Court Chained Black Americans to the Bottom of the Racial Caste System (Doubleday, 2025). Then we came here to talk about what it’s like to have a law degree on the “outside,” staying authentic to one’s own voice, and a vision for connecting the language of the Constitution to our real world experiences.

In this video we discuss:

“The Trinity,” the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth Amendments

The birthright citizenship / nationwide injunction case pending before the Supreme Court (at the time of this posting)

Harvard Law School professor Derrick Bell (1930-2011)

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